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Forgot to ask have you any pics of your car?? Be nice to see what condition your own is in..... I am hoping to have a look again on friday and hope to take some pics
 
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Most body shops wont take on resprays anymore or if they do they charge the earth and take there time doing it. They make more money and quicker cash flow doing the smaller jobs. My car spent the best part of 2 1/2 years at a body shop which I ended up loosing money and pulling the job unfinished. Ended up doing all the bodywork myself and just taking it to a spray booth to get primered/painted. I lost allot of faith in other people doing jobs for me after that and now I'm spraying parts myself with very good results. I even get people asking me to spray things for them which is the downside.
Think about removing rubbers, lights, handles etc which will save time and money and you will get a better finish. Are you planning on priming the whole car or going straight over the old paint with colour? The p1200 you used to sand the car will not be sufficient for the paint to stick. If you are priming the whole car, sand with a long flat block p320. If your going straight for colour sand with p600- p800. The more you can do the more money you can save and the quicker they will have your car in the booth. About 80% of the work load is in the preparation not the spraying.
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I started again myself, removed paint in area's where I could, new panels welded in and everything in p320

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back to body shop for primer, once back home sanded primer p320, p600,p800
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Back to the body shop for paint. which i did all the masking and panel wiping and tacking prior to paint being applied.
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Thanks for the reply appreciate it, I have done most of the rubbing down, I started of with 220, where I found some minor dints I used 3m stopper from the trade morley motor factors, they are the only ones now serving the trade for paint in our area and mostly celly, I then rubbed down and felt for the minor areas of the stopper to see if it felt like it had done the trick... I then moved on to 400 grit all over after the 220 then all over with 600 then 1000 and 1200, and finaly 2000 grit all over..... Not sure if this will be ok? I did all the door shuts, I didnt remove all the items you said like the lights and indicators as I was driving the car and dont have a trailer... My dad did a little in the trade , he worked at Kennings then bristol street motors but didnt want me to Join the garage trade..... I did cars with him but he didnt want me to have it as an income....

I have pics of us doing the chevette and opel manta , all stripped.... but he wouldnt let me have the spray gun..... Looking at the garage trade today my dad would be disappointed, he didnt mind resprays for people or a wing that needs blowing in.... all in the prep and time is time... he didnt pick and choose...... never mind we are cracking on with the welding....
 
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Sounds like you took the correct steps apart from going to far in your grit stages before paint. Go back over the whole car in 600 - 800 grit before paint and grey scotch in door shuts/tight areas. 2000 is used to knock down orange peel after paint not as a key before paint. For best results Leave the car for 4-6 weeks after painting to allow your paint to Gas out and harden up, then go in with a 1500 and 2000 or even up to 6000 and rotary polish it.
Don't use celly paint its dated, you can get all your paint from Spray guns direct delivered to your door. Advise going basecoat clearcoat rather than direct gloss/single stage, They do standox solvent basecoat at £40.80 a litre and your probably need around 2-3 litres depending on coverage. Basecoat mixed with thinner 2:1 at 2litres will give up 3litres mixed. They do Some very good High solids clears/lacquers as well which I refuse to use anything else.
 
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I was just mentioning celly as this is hard to come by nowadays, the door shuts were done with 800 I think.... when I had the manta done by a friend who worked at a vauxhall delearship, I took it up sat morning and it went straight in the oven, he shouted out to the shop I wish you guyys could prep a car as well as this..... My dad was retired at the time.... but the shine was good, one booth had the spoilers in and the the other had the car..... That is one thing my dad missed when he left... having a booth... makes so much difference. My chevette is in celly and Ive added a picture....my dad did the paint, and this wasnt in a oven.... I dont think its a bad shine?
 

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Looks great mate.You can get good results without a booth,i've sprayed 3 bumpers,bonnet,grill and spoiler in my gazebo for our zafira's this year and they come out great.You will still get dirt nibs in a booth,just far less than you get without one.I use a tungsten block to take the top off the dirt and sand 1500/2000 and its gone.The finish is down to the person that is spraying it.The lacquer is like a giant run across the panel the wetter you can get it the better finish,but to much in one area it will run and to little and you get dry spray.If you want a deep shine go hs clear,thicker film build.DSC00561 (1).JPG
 
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Great to hear the cars finally getting sorted just a pain you got messed about.

on cold start the cam followers well one or two are noisy, I have read inn the Haynes manual that they don't really wear? Is it worth getting a new set and can you get away with just removing the cams and no need to remove the head?
I'd recommend you strip your existing lifters and give them a good clean and oil. You can just remove your cam and pull the lifters out using a strong magnet. I serviced all 24 when I was building my wifes V6 with all details you need here in the build diary to same spamming your thread with my pictures. If your not confidant doing them yourself I'm happy to assist should you need it as I'm only a few miles away as I do love my car tinkering.
 
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Hi Harvey,

Thanks for the offer, apreciate it.... I have changed the oil a couple of times and run it for longer and I think the rattle has gone, its i the body shop at the moment.... They had a new sill on it and doing the left arch..... all the front is done.... I should of takien some pictures, I am calling in again on thursday so I shall take some pics..........
I am hoping to get it finished by april /may time, it is a sweet car and I hope to just use it in the summer
 

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Keep us all posted on your progress. Really would love to tackle my 1.8 Cesaro. Just need the money and time to be able to undergo such a project.
 
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I would love to see some pics of your motor no matter what condition.... Its just nice to see another of the same model.....

Cheers

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I did think about a re-shell on the car but I wanted to keep the originality of the car. I have read on other forums about this and when its been re-shelled it takes value of the car. I know this has mainly been aimed at the escort and chevette HS world, but I think it should apply to all. In time I think it will come to the mk3 world. Time will tell.
 

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