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right i'm going to ask a noob question, crap. Got a clifford system (came with the car)

got the unlock/lock button, fine, figured one of the other buttons switches the headlights on (cool) . . . what the chuff does the other button do, from what i can see (the picture is worn) it's like a little star . . .

Also, the near side passanger door doesn't lock or unlock with the central locking system at all, whether i do it using the key or the button, why would that be?
 
First off, the passenger door not locking, your best hope is it's the motor as it's a simple replacement. Next hope would be a break in the wiring. Worst guess, but most unlikely is that it's the central locking module as nothing works from the key either.
You need to get the door card off and access the wiring inside the door with a meter or anything that'll detect a 12v pulse. First make sure the plug's not loose into the motor. If it's ok then disconnect the motor wiring and put your meter across the relevant wiring and earth and pop the locks up and down and see if you get 12v pulses. If you get pulses then it's your motor, replace it.
If you don't then you need to check the wiring out of the central locking module which is in the drivers kick panel hidden behind the ecu etc.
If you're getting pulses now then you need to trace for a break in wiring, probably where the door opens.

As for the button, I don't know Cliffords that well but it's possibly customisable for perhaps popping the boot lock or closing windows etc and might not have been wired up to anything.
 
diamond, i will take a look at some point.

good thought about that button.
 
hi guys, need some help with one of these Falcon kits.

I have a mk3 td if you need to know.

Took out the glovebox but there was no brown/red wire, only 4 brown/white and 4 brown/yellow so I scrapped that idea and went to the driver side kick panel.

Took out the c/l controller and connected to the wiring. I spliced the power/ignition/negative into the red/brown/black then double checked the diagram.

According to the instructions and what ive read on here I should connect the green wire from the kit to the red/brown wire (theres 2 of them) and the blue wire to the brown/white (again theres 2 of them). it may be the other way round (blue/green to brown combination) but its right according to the diagram.

The unit power up ok and learns the remote codes but doesnt operate the c/l.

Ive only connected to 1 of the brown/red and brown/white wires at any 1 time but neither do anything.

On the wiring diagram it says that the pink and orange wires go to the "master" lead but god knows what that is and most say you only need to connect 5 wires, like I have.

What am I missing?

I've connected by splicing into the wires, by cutting it and connecting the new wire in a sort of "Y" shape, if that makes sense.

Should I just connect directly to the cut wire and let the remote unit control the lock/unlock mechanism?

any help is appreciated coz its doing my head in!
 
You're not quite understanding how the Falcon works. It's really just a remote controlelld relay. To get the C/L to operate, you need to short the brown/ red to ground to lock, and the brown/ white unlock. On the falcon you have two relays, one for lock, one for unlock. Both have one normally open position (which you need to use) and one normally closed, which you don't.
I can't remeber the colours now, but you should end up with one going to each brown, and two more to ground.

It sounds like you unplugged the C/L control unit, but I could be mis-reading that, it needs to stay plugged in.
 
the unit is still plugged in mate so no worries there.

after reading your description i'm even more lost. The open/closed on the falcon have 3 coloured wires. From your description i'm assuming I need to cut the red/brown wire and connect 2 of the colours and the 3rd is a ground and likewise for the brown/white.

The only thing is, which side do I connect the wires to, eg. blue to the control unit side or the lock side, or doesnt this make a difference?

Most people who have fitted one on here and posted say theres only 5 wires to connect but 3 are power/ign/gnd so with the other wires that makes 9.

i'm confused, and stressed! Wonder why I dont have the brown/red behind the glovebox?
 
Hello matey, I've replied quite detailed to your PM but as Astra Dan says you just need to permanently earth your Pink and Orange wires and I think you're there.
I'm a little worried about your earlier post as you talk about red/brown/black and live/ignition/earth. I know the order doesn't match but you don't need a 12v igntion feed for this kit. The kit supplies a red and black from the module. These go to Permanent 12v (Red on car loom) and Earth (Brown on car loom or body) repectively. In the drivers side there's a good earthing point just inside the kick panel probably already got a brown wire bolted to it already.
 
sorted lads. just needed to earth the pink n orange as you lads said.

Works a treat, good range on the remote too. Well worth the £

Thanks for the help, sanity has returned!
 
This falcon kit sounds like a good idea.
But the factory alarm isn't working on mine. That's the trouble with farctory security, the scumm nicking your car will be clued up on the system.
I don't know what they've done to mine but you could turn the ignition on from fiddling with the wires to the stereo.
So is it possible to get the remote C/L working from a Toad or Clifford I'm planing on fitting?
Most alarms now come with a 12V output or earthing relay to control the factory C/L.
I got a Toad Ai606 working the C/L on my 205. Was as easy as scotch locking a few wires from the alarm to the cars loom. I didn't have to buy anything other than the alarm!.
 
If you short the red to the black behind the stereo, the ignition will of course come on.
Yes aftermaket alarms will be able to trigger the c/l, it's a common system.
 
hi i have just got one of the falcon remote central locking things and it says that i need to connect the green and pink form the unit to the brown and white form the car but which wires do i put together ie.green-brown and pink to red? and the same for the locking function.
another silly question it doesn't say anything about a ground wire in the instructions but astra dan said that you use a brown wire but you already have used the black wire for the battery negative
sorry to sound a bit thick but when it comes to things like this i have no idea what so ever
 
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Nope you got that a little bit wrong chum :sorry: For the falcon kit connect the following (Falcon module wiring --> Car loom wiring):

Red --> Permanent 12v Supply, usually Red wire.
Black --> Permanent Earth, usually Brown
Green --> Brown/Red out of Central Locking
Blue --> Brown White out of Central Locking
Pink and Orange --> Brown (Earth) - WON'T LOCK/UNLOCK WITHOUT THESE
Black and White --> Don't connect to anything
2 x White --> 1 to Black/White & 1 to Black/Green (Indicators)
 
Had my door card off today to sort out why the window wasn't going down fully and decided to to add window closure as per this link using the Falcon unit already in the car, a relay, some patience and a towel.

http://82.34.52.15/sytemsandsoftwaredevelopment/systems/automotive/How_to/Astra3/Total Closure.htm

The towel was because I had the door connector out and rain like I've not seen before came out of nowhere. Of course I couldn't close the door properly so eveything got wet. And I mean everything.
 
Depends on your point of view. There's definitely more room on the passenger side. However as I mine has a factory alarm, which has the alarm control unit in the drivers side, and I've wired the kit in so one of the buttons triggers the alarm and deadlocks the car, I chose the drivers side. Due to the lack of room the central locking kit ended up under the drivers seat with the wiring running down the drivers side to the alarm and central locking modules, and more recently to the drivers door to do the window closure.
 
deadlocks

can we have more details on getting the deadlock to work with the remote on falcon unit?
do i need to change the door lock for a later one etc etc.

i have the falcon fitted but would like to have the deadlock feature on the remote!

no alarm fitted on my car.
 
robbie601 said:
Green --> Brown/Red out of Central Locking
Blue --> Brown White out of Central Locking
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are these central locking wires on the loom behind the glove box aswell??
 
It's been a few months since I did the dealocking feature, I'll work out the wiring for you later.
Note the drivers door doesn't deadlock as this is manual however I'm researching using a passenger central locking motor to do it.

The central locking wiring should be behind the glove box, as Astra Dan will tell you. I went for the drivers side as the control units are there and I didn't have to use my brain to find the wiring.
 
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